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Notborn: Since there were three posts prior to your's, I'm not sure who the "two clowns" were. However, if I understand your point, it is that only those with kids in the school system could appreciate all-day kindergarten. Why? If it is because the schools remove the burden on parents of daily transportation at inconvenient hours, I believe I made that point. But let's not pretend that there are any measurable academic benefits, because there are not. Senator Gallo says: “It (all-day kindergarten) helps to close achievement gaps between the highest and lowest performing students in reading and math." If this is so, why is the "gap" expanding in the very same communities where all-day K already exists? The fact is, all-day K sounds good, compassionate, and caring. And who could be against that? The only problem is that, like other education fads (see: whole language, open concept, a readiness grade, modern math) it doesn't do what it claims to do. Unless, of course, helping parents negotiate their daily schedules and increasing union numbers are the goals.