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Jimmy, Paul & Hal,

We can talk about how to account for the retired FF pension & OPEB. Separate it out if we want but it's still an obligation the city has. Or we could act like those obligations don't exist & tie the obligation to the current FF's. Because Jimmy's replacement is going to have the same argument retiree pension & OPEB costs can't be applied to them. The costs have to be tied to someone, pick one.