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If you read anything I said earlier than you would know I said it wasn't sustainable for retirees not to pay anything toward health care. You don't read though, you just stick to the same 4 talking points. Answer this.. Don't city workers also pay taxes??? That would mean no raise, increases in health care and higher taxes. I'm not a city employee but its not realistic of you to believe you'll gain concessions without giving anything in return.

You talk about private sector 401k's, where in any comment I made did I compare public and private sector pensions? Again you change the argument. You and cpte spouted off nonsense about wellness clinic's and how taxpayers were getting screwed by that. You were both proven wrong on that point.

Let me ask you reality what concessions do you expect the unions to make without giving up anything in return?

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